LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby RR7 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:32 pm

Why would LA be concerned about spending his playing days in Texas, close to his son, when he makes his offseason home in L.A., not in Texas, theoretically close to his son.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby discovery69 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:55 pm

RR7 wrote:Why would LA be concerned about spending his playing days in Texas, close to his son, when he makes his offseason home in L.A., not in Texas, theoretically close to his son.


His son lives with his mom, who lives in San Antonio. Playing for a team in Texas would probably allow him to make day trips from Houston to San Antonio - Dallas to San Antonio or just San Antonio. Right now he doesn't see his son very much during the season unless he has his son come up to Portland during the season.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby Toby on Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Stuff's hittin' the fan now. Blazers supposedly deny Cleveland's Golden tickets for LaMarcus.

http://blogs.trailblazers.com/BroadcasterProfile/BroadcasterBlog/tabid/188/EntryID/4977/BroadcasterID/4/Default.aspx
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby Toby on Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:10 pm

fanNBA wrote:Hey I'm a Houston fan....

I just want to know what Blazer fans would want for Aldridge....( if he really does want to be traded that is)

would an Asik, Trob, draft picks ( maybe next years) type package suffice?

Or do you guys just hope for a bunch of top draft picks?


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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby discovery69 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:39 pm

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130625/sports/706259711/
Article updated: 6/25/2013 9:13 PM

Bulls have decisions to make, starting with Deng

Luol Deng has gotten plenty of action on the NBA rumors circuit the past few days.

Some potential trades were mentioned, along with negotiations for a contract extension, but a league source suggested there is nothing going on in either category right now.
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In the meantime, Portland all-star power forward LaMarcus Aldridge could become a factor in what the Bulls do this summer.

As forecast here long ago, the Bulls plan to explore trade options for Deng, who is entering the final year of his contract worth $14.3 million. There's nothing to the rumor of Deng being traded to Washington for the No. 3 pick in the draft.

Deng will be tough to move because of his high salary. Washington and Cleveland are two young teams that could use a veteran presence, but there's no chance Deng would draw the No. 1 or 3 overall pick in return. Maybe if one of those teams were picking 10th, it might be possible.

Otherwise, teams looking at Deng would want the Bulls to take back a long, large contract in return and the Bulls aren't in position to do that. Would New Orleans trade Deng for Eric Gordon (3 years, $44.5 million)? Probably, but the Bulls wouldn't take on that contract, even if Gordon and Derrick Rose were on friendly terms.

A smart alternative for the Bulls would be to try to sign Deng, 28, to an extension this summer at a more reasonable price. A four-year deal worth $40 million would seem to be fair market value. It would be affordable for the Bulls and would keep Deng here with Rose during his peak playing years.

The question is whether Deng's camp would be agreeable to such a deal, especially after there's been some acrimony between him and management over the years.

Keeping Deng would be a wise move, because he's helped make the Bulls winners (eight playoff trips in nine years since the 2004 draft). Also, since LeBron James will continue to be an obstacle, the Bulls would be in better shape with two players (Deng and Jimmy Butler) who can challenge James defensively.

Bulls fans often to point to the 2006 draft-night trade of Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas as one of the team's biggest mistakes. It helped set the stage for lottery night 2008, so there's not much point in second-guessing now.

Word is, Aldridge wants to escape from Portland's rebuilding project and has made it known that he'd like to land in Chicago.

Deng for Aldridge won't get it done. The Blazers want Joakim Noah in return and the Bulls don't want to give up the superior defensive big man.

Here's one way to get Portland's attention: Offer Deng and Charlotte's future No. 1 pick. The Bulls are counting on that Bobcats' pick (acquired for Thomas, ironically), to pay off big, because it's unprotected in 2016.

If Charlotte improves during the next two years, though, that pick could end up in the teens. So cashing it in for a 27-year-old all-star has plenty of merit. Aldridge averaged 21.1 points and 9.1 rebounds last season, and could play next to Noah.

There's no telling what might happen this summer, but the Bulls have a large payroll and limited means to make changes. Deng figures to be at the center of whatever transaction that occurs.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby oldfishermen on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:35 pm

Just playing devils advocate seeing what trade might work for the Blazers. There is no rumour behind this trade idea, other than Aldridge wanting to play for the Bulls. I also posted this trade idea on RealGM Blazers

Blazers trade:.$17.5 million… Aldridge and Freeland
Bulls trade:…..$20.1 million….Boozer, Hinrich, Butler, #20 (Dieng $1.4? million), and Charlottes 2016 unprotected first

Jimmy Butler has quit a story behind him. Nice to see he is doing well in his second season. Not only can he score and rebound well, he is also a very tough defender. He gives LeBron and Kobe fits. Butler needs to be included in this trade due to the age of Boozer and Hinrich. I would rather have Butler than Deng in this trade.

This trade would lower the Blazers cap space by about $5.5 million. However we pick up 3 players. 2 much needed veteran depth players in Hinrich and Butler, plus a center project in Dieng.

Not sure how I feel about replacing Aldridge with Boozer? However, the sweeteners help to swallow the bitter pill.

Does adding Charlottes 2016 unprotected first make this trade work for the Blazers?
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby RR7 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:41 pm

That's beyond terrible for Portland. Boozer and Hinrich? No.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby TBpup on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:24 pm

RR7 wrote:That's beyond terrible for Portland. Boozer and Hinrich? No.


I can promise you that doesn't get it done..
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby Fez on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:30 pm

Mirotic + the CHA pick, start from there.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby TBpup on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:03 pm

Just got off the phone. Have been able to talk with several what I guess would be considered 'sources' so will try to consolidate.

The Blazers are extremely active but not so much in the way the media reports have been listing it. They are listening to offers and Cleveland, Houston, Charlotte, Boston, Chicago, Washington, Orlando and Phoenix were teams that were mentioned. Some of those were draft pick oriented, some of those were player/trade oriented. (A lot of that has already be supposed here....good job guys.)

As for the Cleveland/Chicago talks that have been coming up, they seemed to think Cleveland had made multiple offers but that Chicago had the better proposal but it was going to likely take a 3rd team to get involved. As of now, nothing was very close but the offers were getting better and his feeling was that if it keeps improving, Portland might actually listen. They are not actively shopping Aldridge but now other teams are inquiring.

If some of the multiple pick offers were accepted, Paul Allen would be in Draft heaven the next couple of years.

Also, this just hit:


Sam Amico just tweeted the following :

(He)Said repeatedly Blazers won't move LaMarcus Aldridge. "I was wrong. Told tonight they'd be willing, but want 2 first-rounders and player(s)."
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby RR7 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:13 pm

thanks TB, appreciated.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby TBpup on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:26 pm

RR7 wrote:thanks TB, appreciated.


Happy to share. Wish there were something more substantial/specific but it's fun to discuss. Who knows....nothing may come of it because as of now, it is just conversation.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby Fez on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:29 pm

Neil has to ask for,Mirotic/CHA pick, right?

It only makes sense.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby Kmurph1 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:44 pm

at first glance the CHI deal looks unappealing, but when you start to look at it more closely it begins to look better and better.....The key is what other peripherals (picks\players) would be added to the deal...but to summarize

Deng...Ok, so he is for salary purposes mainly, but he can play and has value AND he has 1 year left on his deal...meaning cap space or future trade chip that has some value

Mirotic...Ok, so he is a stretch 4, similar to LA...was the youngest MVP in the euroleague this year, which is considered 2nd strongest league next to NBA....also won rising star for 2nd consecutive year, which has a who's who list of euro players, and I don't think any? or very few? have such an accomplishment...known as a very smart player...has buyout issues\contract til 2016...POR could get some cash ($3mil) from CHI in a deal, but they could only contribute $575k to buyout, he would have to pick up the rest...meaning chances could be that he doesn't see the floor for another year or so....He would be one of the main pieces coming back, very well regarded player...

2016 pick from CHA that is, I think unprotected....very likely IMO that this would be a good pick as CHA has shown NO signs of emerging from the lottery....

CHI also has a 2014 pick (would likely be in the 20's), and #20 in this year's draft.....

Other potential pieces\things to consider....

Recent rumors of CHI trying to get Thomas Robinson from HOU (and may be among the leaders currently)...could he be part of the deal? Possibly....

Jimmy Butler could be included in the deal, I think CHI would be reluctant to add him to a deal, but he could be a possibility...remote IMO

The option to add Freeland to the deal, clearing his salary off the books, adding more cap space....

Lastly, this would very likely insure that POR keeps its 2014 pick in what most experts say will be a strong draft with it looks like 4-5 high level players available.....

Now POR would not get all of this but I could see them pushing for something like:

LA\Freeland
for
Deng\Rights to Mirotic, 2016 pick and #20

with the possibility of it being expanded to a 3-tema deal to include Thomas Robinson and HOU receiving CHI 2014 pick

Would CHI do this?

I think they would...they are on the cusp right now, outside of Deng they wouldn't lose any of their core pieces (Butler could step in for Deng) and adding LA to Rose\Noah\Butler I think puts them in the legitimate contenders group.....

Would POR do this?

I guess we will find out....
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge - trade coming?

Postby oldfishermen on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:08 pm

The Bulls are already over the luxury tax threshold for 2013/14, using Deng’s salary for trade purposes makes perfect sense. Deng’s salary is a better choice than Boozer’s. Wish we could land Jimmy Butler, I like that kid.
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